Sep 15, 2005 10:10
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integrato nel mondo psicologico ed etico
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Same sentence as before:
Si tratta di scelte che, per le loro risonanze profonde, non possono essere delegate ad alcuna figura professionale e richiedono la piena autonomia decisionale, come condizione essenziale perché l’esito di tali scelte – quale che sia - venga integrato in modo non distruttivo nel **mondo psicologico ed etico** dell’individuo o della coppia.
I basically removed the problem ...
Because of their wide-ranging repercussions these decisions cannot be entrusted to test providers but should be made independently by clients. Indeed, non-directive counseling is essential to ensure that individuals or couples can **adjust** constructively to the outcome of those decisions.
Opinions/suggestions/criticism are welcome!!!
Si tratta di scelte che, per le loro risonanze profonde, non possono essere delegate ad alcuna figura professionale e richiedono la piena autonomia decisionale, come condizione essenziale perché l’esito di tali scelte – quale che sia - venga integrato in modo non distruttivo nel **mondo psicologico ed etico** dell’individuo o della coppia.
I basically removed the problem ...
Because of their wide-ranging repercussions these decisions cannot be entrusted to test providers but should be made independently by clients. Indeed, non-directive counseling is essential to ensure that individuals or couples can **adjust** constructively to the outcome of those decisions.
Opinions/suggestions/criticism are welcome!!!
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Obviously I don't know what comes before or after, but if the author felt it was important to add "psicologo e etico" I think some sort of reference should be there!
You could put something like:
Because of their wide-ranging repercussions these decisions cannot be entrusted to test providers but should be made independently by clients. Indeed, non-directive counseling is essential to ensure that individuals or couples can adjust constructively -- both a psychological and ethical level -- to the outcome of those decisions.
OR move the part about psych/ethical to the end, though I think it's not as clear or effective:
Because of their wide-ranging repercussions these decisions cannot be entrusted to test providers but should be made independently by clients. Indeed, non-directive counseling is essential to ensure that individuals or couples can adjust constructively to the outcome of those decisions, on both a psychologial and ethical level.
Psychological and ethical are two different arenas!
Anyway, my two bits...
Catherine
You could put something like:
Because of their wide-ranging repercussions these decisions cannot be entrusted to test providers but should be made independently by clients. Indeed, non-directive counseling is essential to ensure that individuals or couples can adjust constructively -- both a psychological and ethical level -- to the outcome of those decisions.
OR move the part about psych/ethical to the end, though I think it's not as clear or effective:
Because of their wide-ranging repercussions these decisions cannot be entrusted to test providers but should be made independently by clients. Indeed, non-directive counseling is essential to ensure that individuals or couples can adjust constructively to the outcome of those decisions, on both a psychologial and ethical level.
Psychological and ethical are two different arenas!
Anyway, my two bits...
Catherine
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Comment: "thanks, Catherine ;-)"
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integrated non-destructively in to the individual’s or couple’s psychological or ethical makeup.
suggestion: this is how I interpret the phrase: It is stressing that to get something out of whatever decision making situation is pending, one has to make up his or her own mind to truly believe in it so it becomes an integral part of the person.
Therefore:
Because of their wide-ranging repercussions, these decisions cannot be entrusted to a professional figure but should be made autonomously, as that is an essential condition for these decisions to become integrated non-destructively in to the individual’s or couple’s psychological or ethical makeup.
Therefore:
Because of their wide-ranging repercussions, these decisions cannot be entrusted to a professional figure but should be made autonomously, as that is an essential condition for these decisions to become integrated non-destructively in to the individual’s or couple’s psychological or ethical makeup.
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I like your wording but see below
I like the fact that you made couples and individuals the grammatical subject of the sentence since they are the logical subjects of these choices.
You went a little too far perhaps in paraphrasing.
to ensure that couples and individuals integrate constructively the outcome of these choices to their ethical and psychological profile.
You went a little too far perhaps in paraphrasing.
to ensure that couples and individuals integrate constructively the outcome of these choices to their ethical and psychological profile.
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integrated in a non-destructive way into the psychological and ethical make-up
In trying to be helpful, although it is rather different from your version (we all do it differently!) I would translate the paragraph :-
We are dealing with choices, which, due to their deep resonances, cannot be delegated to any professionals but, as an essential condition, require the person's full decision-making capcity, because the outcome of these choices - whatever they may be - must be integrated in a non-destructive way into the psychological and ethical make-up of the individual or the couple.
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Note added at 1 day 7 hrs 4 mins (2005-09-16 17:15:20 GMT)
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following our discussions above - this could become
"... must be integrated in a non-destructive way into the inner psychological and ethical world of the individual or couple".
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Note added at 1 day 7 hrs 4 mins (2005-09-16 17:15:45 GMT)
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hope this helps!
We are dealing with choices, which, due to their deep resonances, cannot be delegated to any professionals but, as an essential condition, require the person's full decision-making capcity, because the outcome of these choices - whatever they may be - must be integrated in a non-destructive way into the psychological and ethical make-up of the individual or the couple.
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Note added at 1 day 7 hrs 4 mins (2005-09-16 17:15:20 GMT)
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following our discussions above - this could become
"... must be integrated in a non-destructive way into the inner psychological and ethical world of the individual or couple".
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Note added at 1 day 7 hrs 4 mins (2005-09-16 17:15:45 GMT)
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hope this helps!
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